FYI - this is a cut n paste from the yahoo escort group.
I have personal experience of this - very unpleasant & stressful.
The way I handled a serial txt abuser - an escort that used to live at the same address - was based on much advice from the Police.
'Syko' Gordon had previously attempted to make me blind & pull all my teeth out - the if that was not enough - after I had him arrested for ABH - if that was not enough he then sent me daily tirades of very abusive nasty txt messages - and even his brother ( I suspect ) started.
If anyone has had similar experiences/advice please share - in particular if you have succeeded in getting either numbers blocked - or the Police have managed to stop the abuse:
Ref the latest message about this I appre your point of view - but let me assure you - from my own experience of a phone harassment case - responding with strong language - threats etc IS NOT ADVISABLE.
After I made initial contact with the Police they made it clear that I should not respond to ANY txt messages - remember if they arrest the suspect the phone will be examined - evidence of the escort 'shooting from the hip' is not going to do YOU any favours.
If you are merely getting calls - just ignore - DON'T ANSWER - easier said than done if the abuser is on a witheld number.
Store any abusive voice messages and/or txt messages.
I think the best ideea is to confront this guy if he still continues,dont let it go silently as this fucker lives in his own world,probably he doesnt realise what he is doing.Pick up the phone next time,you say to him you had enough and not gone tolerate this kind of retarded behaviour and you will take measures if he still continues.There are 2 option that he is gone do after this,either stop the calls,either be more violent and this is a good thing as then you would have threats from him (save it on your voicemail)so you will have more evidence for the police
We dont need to tolerate this crap from them and just do nothing or wait for them to be ''kind with us'' and stop
Please find below, an email I forwarded earlier this week. It'll be of help to this poor dude suffering needlessly before the law is enforced.
Please forward it him if you have his email address as i'm not able to post it on the forum for all to see.
You have a nice day now
Troy
p.s enclosure:
Hi there, (please forward this to Jett)
Re: Jett's nuisance phone calls
There's a simply solution to harassing phone calls.
If you are fortunate to have a handset with a call management facility, you can block that number from calling you. I am sure you have a separate number for your business and in this industry with quite a few folk with issues you will get that annoying calls occasionally.
I have had personal experience of unwanted calls sales people and freaks in the past and adapted the call management system to stop it.
If the number is blocked whiles he's calling then don't pick up. Hope this is useful.
Troy
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM, from Sleazymichael >
wrote:
Hija Thierry - Jeff & everyone on the list!
That may be the advice from Matthew - however in my experience over the years when I have had similar issues - two different phone providers made clear 1) we don't block numbers 2) they would only consider such IF the Police get involved.
Some fancy phones have option for you to block certain callers.
If the caller is still sending abusive texts - or leaving abusive voice messages - my advice is to SAVE all - and go to the Police.
Not surprised by this advice from PC Matthew Delaney - I had same before - think about it - it is less work for them if they can get the phone provider to get the number blocked - it saves Police resources - I shudder to think how many hours have gone into investigating my case - but hey that is what the Police are here for - for sure Jeff so contact your network provider - but be prepared for a no - then go to the Police, they can't then refuse to help you - one PC - only one advised me to think about changing my number - well that is pointless in our profession! - besides why should I?
In my case with Gordon the escort that attacked me the Police were terrific - it took some months - they initially gave him a verbal warning by phone - when this failed to have any effect I went back to the Police they sent a WPC to my home address - yes you can request a home visit to report a crime - and interviewed me - they decided there was then more than enough evidence to warrant an arrest - thank fcuk I could give the police details of where he worked - on the first attempted arrest he had given an old address.
So if you have a lot of patience - don't give up - the Police would need your mobile for at least 6 weeks - in my case more like 8! - they send away to download everything - you will of course get the phone back - so make sure for the duration you have a backup phone!
This has been a very useful discussion - and I will post somthing on the good escort forum.
If anyone coming to the dinner on Monday has similar experiences it could be useful to discuss.
Looking forward to Monday! - and I will be introducing a new lad to the group.
xxx
Michael
For information, this is what the police advises in case of harrassement.
The most simple answer I can give is for Jett to contact his network provider, explain that he is getting abusive calls from this guy, (he doesn't have to explain the relationship or anything about his work) and ask them to block the two numbers from being able to contact him. I doubt that this guy would go to the effort of getting a new number purely to continue to harass Jett.
If it continues, there are offences here either under Harassment or possibly in Malicious Communications, (I word need to check the legal database for the latter). For me to be able to get involved and for the police to contact this guy and give him a warning, Jett would need to come see me so we could put a report on.
I can of course speak with Jett first , either on the phone or in person without him making a report. If he wants to chat, just pass on my email or my phone number.
Hope you are well,
Matthew
Matthew Delaney Training and Development Unit LGBT Liaison Officer
Telephone 0207 232 6875 Metline 26875 Mobile 07722 026422
Question
SleazyMichael
FYI - this is a cut n paste from the yahoo escort group.
I have personal experience of this - very unpleasant & stressful.
The way I handled a serial txt abuser - an escort that used to live at the same address - was based on much advice from the Police.
'Syko' Gordon had previously attempted to make me blind & pull all my teeth out - the if that was not enough - after I had him arrested for ABH - if that was not enough he then sent me daily tirades of very abusive nasty txt messages - and even his brother ( I suspect ) started.
If anyone has had similar experiences/advice please share - in particular if you have succeeded in getting either numbers blocked - or the Police have managed to stop the abuse:
harrassing phone calls
From: Sleazymichael
To: malesexworkers@cybersol.koumbit.org
Ref the latest message about this I appre your point of view - but let me assure you - from my own experience of a phone harassment case - responding with strong language - threats etc IS NOT ADVISABLE.
After I made initial contact with the Police they made it clear that I should not respond to ANY txt messages - remember if they arrest the suspect the phone will be examined - evidence of the escort 'shooting from the hip' is not going to do YOU any favours.
If you are merely getting calls - just ignore - DON'T ANSWER - easier said than done if the abuser is on a witheld number.
Store any abusive voice messages and/or txt messages.
cheers
Michael
From: xelll cristi <lost_angel2000_xxx@yahoo.com>
To: malesexworkers@cybersol.koumbit.org
Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 14:47:39
Subject: Re: [malesexworkers] NETWORK PROVIDER USUALLY SAYS NO: harrassing phone calls
I think the best ideea is to confront this guy if he still continues,dont let it go silently as this fucker lives in his own world,probably he doesnt realise what he is doing.Pick up the phone next time,you say to him you had enough and not gone tolerate this kind of retarded behaviour and you will take measures if he still continues.There are 2 option that he is gone do after this,either stop the calls,either be more violent and this is a good thing as then you would have threats from him (save it on your voicemail)so you will have more evidence for the police
We dont need to tolerate this crap from them and just do nothing or wait for them to be ''kind with us'' and stop
From: Rory O <roryhotstuff@gmail.com>
To: Sleazymichael
Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 20:19:36
Subject: Re: [malesexworkers] NETWORK PROVIDER USUALLY SAYS NO: harrassing phone calls
Its Samsung phones that have a call blocker x
From:Sleazy Michael
To: malesexworkers@cybersol.koumbit.org
Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 14:25:21
Subject: [malesexworkers] NETWORK PROVIDER USUALLY SAYS NO: harrassing phone calls
As requested - but as I explained not all handsets have the option to block numbers - especially if you have a basic mobile. - like me!
cheers
Michael
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Troy Winston
To: Sleazy Michael
Sent: Sat, 19 February, 2011 19:30:27
Subject: Re: [malesexworkers] NETWORK PROVIDER USUALLY SAYS NO: harrassing phone calls
Please find below, an email I forwarded earlier this week. It'll be of help to this poor dude suffering needlessly before the law is enforced.
Please forward it him if you have his email address as i'm not able to post it on the forum for all to see.
You have a nice day now
Troy
p.s enclosure:
Hi there, (please forward this to Jett)
Re: Jett's nuisance phone calls
There's a simply solution to harassing phone calls.
If you are fortunate to have a handset with a call management facility, you can block that number from calling you. I am sure you have a separate number for your business and in this industry with quite a few folk with issues you will get that annoying calls occasionally.
I have had personal experience of unwanted calls sales people and freaks in the past and adapted the call management system to stop it.
If the number is blocked whiles he's calling then don't pick up. Hope this is useful.
Troy
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:39 PM, from Sleazymichael >
wrote:
Hija Thierry - Jeff & everyone on the list!
That may be the advice from Matthew - however in my experience over the years when I have had similar issues - two different phone providers made clear 1) we don't block numbers 2) they would only consider such IF the Police get involved.
Some fancy phones have option for you to block certain callers.
If the caller is still sending abusive texts - or leaving abusive voice messages - my advice is to SAVE all - and go to the Police.
Not surprised by this advice from PC Matthew Delaney - I had same before - think about it - it is less work for them if they can get the phone provider to get the number blocked - it saves Police resources - I shudder to think how many hours have gone into investigating my case - but hey that is what the Police are here for - for sure Jeff so contact your network provider - but be prepared for a no - then go to the Police, they can't then refuse to help you - one PC - only one advised me to think about changing my number - well that is pointless in our profession! - besides why should I?
In my case with Gordon the escort that attacked me the Police were terrific - it took some months - they initially gave him a verbal warning by phone - when this failed to have any effect I went back to the Police they sent a WPC to my home address - yes you can request a home visit to report a crime - and interviewed me - they decided there was then more than enough evidence to warrant an arrest - thank fcuk I could give the police details of where he worked - on the first attempted arrest he had given an old address.
So if you have a lot of patience - don't give up - the Police would need your mobile for at least 6 weeks - in my case more like 8! - they send away to download everything - you will of course get the phone back - so make sure for the duration you have a backup phone!
This has been a very useful discussion - and I will post somthing on the good escort forum.
If anyone coming to the dinner on Monday has similar experiences it could be useful to discuss.
Looking forward to Monday! - and I will be introducing a new lad to the group.
xxx
Michael
For information, this is what the police advises in case of harrassement.
----- Original Message -----
From: LGBT-MD@met.police.uk
Sent: 02/18/11 10:28 AM
To: zezetta.star@gmx.com
Subject: Re: harrassing phone calls
Hi Thierry,
Nice to hear from you.
The most simple answer I can give is for Jett to contact his network provider, explain that he is getting abusive calls from this guy, (he doesn't have to explain the relationship or anything about his work) and ask them to block the two numbers from being able to contact him. I doubt that this guy would go to the effort of getting a new number purely to continue to harass Jett.
If it continues, there are offences here either under Harassment or possibly in Malicious Communications, (I word need to check the legal database for the latter). For me to be able to get involved and for the police to contact this guy and give him a warning, Jett would need to come see me so we could put a report on.
I can of course speak with Jett first , either on the phone or in person without him making a report. If he wants to chat, just pass on my email or my phone number.
Hope you are well,
Matthew
Matthew Delaney Training and Development Unit LGBT Liaison Officer
Telephone 0207 232 6875 Metline 26875 Mobile 07722 026422
Email matthew.delaney2@met.police.uk Address Rotherhithe Police Station, 99 Lower Road, London. SE16 2XQ
The Metropolitan Police Service is here for London - on the streets and in your community, working with you to make our city safer.
Thierry Schaffauser,
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